I'd like to believe in a god, but haven't found one that deserves it yet... According to their various holy books that is. It's a pity the New Testament didn't try to balance the old more. It was an opportunity missed to condemn the hate and jealously apportioned to god

Jesus is not important to me... at all. God didn't create me. I am the result of my parents having sex. I live my life the way I want to. If God did actually exist and he wanted me to live a particular way, he obviously programmed me incorrectly. I know the bible left to right (because that is how one reads a book correctly) and because I have read it I know that the god of the bible is a megalomaniac. He is homicidal, infanticidal, regicidal, a jealous, bitter, manipulative, and downright horrendous bigoted being undeserving of any adoration. Read a proper book. Learn something new.

I'm sorry that you both feel this way about God. You have to place your hope in something, why not God? And why not risk the fact without believing in The Lord Jesus that you might end up in hell. If the bible all a big make up story, what's the point in living life at all? God has brought me peace in the middle of my problems. And I can rest knowing that I have a place in Heaven, and a Father up there who loves me very much. Why even want to risk going to hell simply because you didn't accept Jesus into your heart?

@championofchristchurch There are quite a lot of problems with your argument. I am not going to run through all of them because I think you will dismiss them anyway. But I do want to go through some of the very obvious problems. Firstly, you assume that there is a god and you assume you are worshiping the correct god. Humanity knows of somewhere in the region of 2500 beings that could be classed as a god or deity. That means that your chosen god makes up just 0.04% of the total options available. This means that you have a 99.9%+ chance of worshiping the wrong god. In fact you probably are worshiping the wrong god or not enough gods. Try Hinduism, odds of worshiping the correct god dramatically increase. Assuming your God is the correct God (he probably isn't) and he has commanded that I have free will, what sort of a god would he be for punishing me for using it?. What if you are wrong?. What if there is no god or you have been worshiping the wrong god?. You have waisted years, no doubt, praying for nothing. And if you have been worshiping the wrong god, the real god might send you to its own version of hell! Just say, for arguments sake, if I decided to pray to your god, half heartedly, in an attempt to get into heaven, surely an omnipotent god would see through my ploy and stoke me down to hell anyway?. Out of curiosity, why don't you worship Zeus, the supreme god?

@championofchristchurch I place my hope in my ability to do the right thing and rely upon the love and support of friends and family. I do not believe in hell either, but to me, sacrificing free will to belong to a deity in heaven would be hell. To be a drone that does not know or care if those that loved me in life are with me, in order to subserviently comply in heaven does not appeal. Life is for living, I don't need a god that tells me I'm damned if I love an adult of the same sex to give me incentive or motive to enjoy the company of my children or to have aspirations for me and my family or to guide my moral compass. If god is so shallow as to damn me to eternity just because I don't believe in him, despite leading a 'good' life, in favour of a child molester who repents on his death bed, then so be it. If there's a god it's quite evident that he has long since forgotten us.

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@Burrfoot hey, she has bills to pay. If she wants to exploit vulnerable (& stupid) people, who are we to judge?. I would say let her Lord judge her but I would much prefer her conscience judges her... if she has one.